Show and Tell: What We Have Been Building
Hosts: Chris Carolan, Nico Lafakis
September 30, 2026
Show and tell: Nico Lafakis put his new dot to work by voice on a real design request, Chris Carolan showed a Road to UNBOUND road page he said took about half an hour, and the hosts turned slide decks into 3D walkthroughs and argued why Claude builds 3D well.
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Chris CarolanNobody wants you to optimize your B2B websiteChris CarolanSlides make you choose text or visual
Nico LafakisThe age of the buildersNico LafakisThe brain as a 3D city or an office buildingChris CarolanThe end result as a shareable experience, not a formNico LafakisThe equivalent of hiring a graphic designer from FiverrKey takeaways
Nico Lafakis put his new dot, the always-on ChatGPT assistant OpenAI announced the day before, to work by voice: find a Slack conversation about new Value-First Office Hours graphics and come back with four designs. He said it did the four-up "very successfully", then iterated with him, offering its own picks, while it fixed Node in the background. (00:26-05:25)
Nico named two gaps: you have to call the dot to use voice, and with three or four tasks running at once "I don't know what the progress is on them". (01:02-02:09)
Nico is using the dot to prepare for the HubSpot Midwest AI HUG he said he will be leading "very, very soon". (05:25-05:43)
Chris Carolan showed a Road to UNBOUND road page: clickable 3D sprites and a card for every guest along a road from the first episode to the latest stop. He said it came from one request in Claude Code, "the space of, like, a half hour", and that none of the design "was specced out beyond that". (07:14-14:44)
Chris's case for building this way: a guest who finds their own stop and wants to share it right away beats a pre-written post they never get to. (12:16-13:28)
Chris had his team test Nico's deck-to-3D skill on a slide deck. The team came back with notes, including that the skill ran a different three.js version than theirs, and aligned it. One host said the new version has more dynamic lighting, a Tron look, and no models clipping into each other. (15:35-20:10)
One host pushed back on the idea that using AI means never learning to make decks: "Knowing how to make a deck is not a life skill that you're ever really going to need to know". (20:20-21:30)
The hosts walked through a 3D gallery, flaws on show: the sound came out as a constant tone, and the camera moves down the hall too fast. (21:33-24:48)
One host argued for live walkthroughs over slides: people listen to you instead of reading, and share the visuals among themselves afterward, so "guess who doesn't need to be there in the next hour? You". (24:48-30:20)
One host showed a 3D animated story of an AI incident, made by handing a slide deck to Claude. He said it was made inside his $20-a-month subscription, and that by hand it would take someone very good at 3D a day, probably two. He also said he will start workshops "like next week". (30:28-33:47)
Nico pictured an AI operating system as a 3D city or office building where you can see which agents talk to whom, and his own harness as a 3D model he can edit to change the code. (34:22-36:40)
Nico's claim: Claude builds 3D worlds better than GPT because it works through code and vectors while GPT works in pixels; GPT, he said, will pretty much always be better at images. The show did not test either claim. (37:06-39:54)
One host predicted the gaming industry will be "hollowed out real hard" in six to eight months as independent developers build and publish their own games, framed as Jevons paradox and "the age of the builders". (40:17-43:35)
Chris closed: "We're here trying to break you out of your B2B jail every damn day." (43:35-45:07)
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